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Good Parenting by SionnaDehr Good Parenting by SionnaDehr
Not much to rant about here. The idea of telling a child "no" and spanking them and/or punishing them in any way shape or form is lost on society. Congratulations! We are now breeding generations of spoiled rotten little brats! I should know! I went to school with a few of them! SWolf is not amused... >.<

I mean really, I was spanked and punished when I was a child! I turned out just fine :P!
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fuckshiru Featured By Owner May 13, 2015   Digital Artist
Not just kids. Adults need discipline too.
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TheiCarlyAngel Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2015  Student Artist
My parents did this to me when I was little and now I feel like crying just thinking about it. ;_;
(At least my guardian is a changed person.)
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Makani-chan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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ChippingChart66 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012
Tell me about it! I get constantly rescued to this very day at the ripe age of 23 since I still live under my parents' roof and my Asperger Syndrome diagnosis has triggered so much concern from the pits of their very own hearts that I've required constant therapeutic assistance for my entire life so far which I still do to this very day as well and I LOVE it! I should be extra-super-happy to be one of the most wholesome-minded young women on the face of the planet and we all know it's better to be that way!
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011
Ladies and gentlemen, what happens when you do not discipline your child? I don't know that answer myself. Visit your local jail to figure it out.

Just remember that, "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him". Proverbs 13:24

In reality, parents need to be parents. The government needs to quit trying to replace parents, because the government can't raise children, just wards of the state. Parents should be able to spank their children, and while you're at it, schools should be allowed to do the same, both within reason. Take that away, you notice a lot of issues with the children in the hippy generation.

As a side note, I have quite a few stories that would make you laugh till you gagged, Shannon. :lol:
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Well said my friend.
Oh really?
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011
Yes I do have stories.

This kid I know has two parents that tried to be "cool". Never punished him, served alcohol to minors to try and please their child, and so on. They were the "cool parents" but they spoilt that boy. Well, they did the same to his big brother. Take a guess at what happened:

The older kid is 22 and lives in his parent's basement with a highschool education. His ambition? Become a rap star.

As for the younger kid...well...it's not as funny of a fate.
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
That is just... sad.
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011
My friend, I haven't told you the BEGINNING of it. I have all these experiences because of the kinds of people I had the pleasure of meeting before we converted to Christianity. I wasn't always a Christian, you know. xD
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Atheist?
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011
Agnostic. Maybe deist if you want. I was all over the place between those two.
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Ah.
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Batsy-Fey Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011   General Artist
What does rolling down a child's pants and whacking them on the butt with your bare hand prove? Nothing but to be afraid of so much as saying "poop" in their presence, and in some cases, growing up with a spanking fetish for all the wrong reasons. That's all it does. Take my sister, for example, at the hand of our angry former stepdad, who my Mom never even knew we were being spanked as she didn't approve of it, because we didn't tell her until we got older..

So, so long as you say "I got spanked as a child and I turned out just fine", I think I'll say "My Mom found other ways to teach me right from wrong, and I turned out even better." Clearly, you must not remember what the fear and pain you felt as a child was like, so it's become so easy for you to say. You sound like you could use a good spanking right now.:evileye:
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SiogaAgusArrachtaigh Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011
I really think it depends on how hard the child was hit and the personality of the kid. It's true, spanking doesn't always work, but for others it's the only way to get them to behave. My mom only had to spank me once in my life, and then she explained to me why I was spanked. I never acted out in public again, because I knew that I would get in trouble. Had nothing to do with the actual spanking(It didn't even hurt that much), but from having my mom upset with me.

And like I said, it also depends on how hard the kid was spanked. A normal spank is usually just a quick swat on the ass that doesn't hurt that much. If the spank is really painful, then that's probably a sign that you're spanking too hard.
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I can understand spanking being used to the extent of discipline in some ways. For instance, I'm sixteen. I haven't been spanked in two years-- yet I can remember being spanked. When I was spanked, I knew I'd done something REALLY bad, and therefore -- since I'd rather not get spanked again -- I wouldn't do what I did wrong again.

Now, spanking for the tiniest reasons and in a violent way is a different story. But spanking itself can be used in way that isn't traumatizing.

Though, of course, you could always choose not to spank your child. It's all up to the parent in disciplining in the end :shrug:
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
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You don't have to spank children. Sometimes, its not what's needed. But, most people who I've met who were never spanked as kids turned out to be spoiled brats with little to no idea what the words "right" and "wrong" and "obey" meant. They also tended to be party animals with no sense of responsibility.

"My Mom found other ways to teach me right from wrong, and I turned out even better."

I wasn't aware that we were in a "who's better then whom" contest. I was just stating that I turned out well grounded because of swats.

"Clearly, you must not remember what the fear and pain you felt as a child was like, so it's become so easy for you to say."

And clearly you forget that a simple swat on the butt's pain fades almost instantly.
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Batsy-Fey Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011   General Artist
It doesn't fade as quickly as you might think. Not for some kids..
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
If it doesn't fade quickly, then the kid was hit too hard. That can be easily counted as abuse. Especially if hit in other places or frequently for no actual reason. There's a double edged sword to everything, even punishment methods... though I think people should draw the line a "reasoning" with kids. Having watched a few of them myself, reasoning doesn't work because they receive no consequence. Spanking was a consequence for me when I was a child.
It also might not fade as quickly when things like the belt are used, or a paddle. But, its not supposed to cause actual injury. If that happens, then something is wrong.
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Batsy-Fey Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011   General Artist
May be true. But I still just fail to see what it accomplishes. It still strikes me as the kind of thing that should be saved for kinky sexual practices, but nothing else.

Why not try other stuff, like, lessee.. When I was a kind and I did something wrong, we would be 1. Told to do a chore of some kind. 2. Be given a time-out to think about what we did. Or 3, write an essay as to what we were thinking when we did it.

Just sayin', spanking doesn't have to be the only way. It's a little old-fashioned. Archaic even, in my mind..:paranoid:
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
"It's a little old-fashioned. Archaic even, in my mind.."

And yet, it still happens to work really well. There are some kids that you just can't get through to, but that's only a few. As a general rule, spanking works.

"But I still just fail to see what it accomplishes."

It places the idea in a child's mind that if they steal that toy, lie to anyone, or do something else that breaks the rules that parents set up. Its called giving someone a consequence that is really not enjoyable so that they won't do it again and, therefore, giving the child the ability to learn from what they do so as to better themselves as a whole. Then, you explain why what they did wrong so that they'll gain understanding.

"1. Told to do a chore of some kind."

So... a four year old is definitely going to be able to do a chore that they WILL NOT enjoy? That only works on older kids and teenager, little kids can't do that many chores physically.

"2. Be given a time-out to think about what we did."

Never works... kids sit there with their noses against the walls allowing their anger to fizzle and resentment to grow. They don't learn anything. In fact, some kids just go up there and think about the next thing they're going to play. I know that I, and a few other friends of mine, did that.

"3, write an essay as to what we were thinking when we did it."

... I wasn't aware that two year old kids can write. In fact, I wasn't aware that kids under the age of five know what a sentence is. It on;y works on older kids. In some cases, there is an emotional wrongdoing where the kid wasn't thinking when they did it. In many cases, children can't answer that. Its a method of "reasoning" and, as I've said before, reasoning with kids is completely pointless because most of them have no reason.

"kind of thing that should be saved for kinky sexual practices, but nothing else"

... I'm sorry but, ewe. I do not see the point of that.
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Batsy-Fey Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011   General Artist
Are you calling me a liar? How do you even know how old we were at the time of the situations in question? Or anything that happened in my life, for that matter. So you can't say anything in that matter. But, I have a feeling that anything I say at this point, you're just going to nitpick and analyze desperately to death for a way to prove me wrong, because nothing is more painful, of course, then even the most remote possibility that you may be wrong. That's why you're even responding all defensively like this in the first place, I'll bet.
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I'm sorry, but your argument isn't that logical. It would help to know ages to get a better grip, but since you didn't.
You're going completely off of emotion, I'm simply stating facts that I've analyzed over the years. Just because I am able to refute your points with evidence and logic doesn't mean that I'm calling you a liar.
I am not being defensive (or at least trying not to be). The reply you just gave me, on the other hand, is a very defensive reply and I would consider revising it and getting back to the discussion at hand.

"you're just going to nitpick and analyze desperately to death for a way to prove me wrong, because nothing is more painful, of course, then even the most remote possibility that you may be wrong."

... um, its called a debate. In a debate, we give our evidence and/or reasons to support our claims, therefore trying to prove the other wrong. If you can't handle a debate, I suggest that you get out now because at this point, you are not helping your case in the least.
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Hasn't it gotten to the point where if you spank your kid, they think it's abuse? :|
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Delta-Haiiro Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2011
true true a little punishment never hurts, it's when it becomes abuse we should worry. Some parents don't know the difference like my mother, who believe it was okay to hit me because I didn't get straight A's or that I was social enough. Sad that there are more parents like this today.
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WoodLily Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
That's aweful. Did your mom ever get help?
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Kalinka-Shadows Featured By Owner May 13, 2011
I support discipline and punishing children and holding them accountable for the things they do. However, I am an Anti-Theist and I know that spanking is ritualized Christian sexual abuse. It should be criminalized.
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner May 13, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Um, no, not all Christians ritually spank their children. If their child does something wrong that warrants spanking, then they get spanked. Its not some silly ritual that we do. WE DON'T HAVE ANY RITUALS! WE ARE NOT A RELIGION WE ARE A FAITH! If someone tells you otherwise, well, while I'm all for diverse opinions, please take note that they are wrong.
Spanking is not some Christian ritual. We do not hit our children because we want to.
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Kalinka-Shadows Featured By Owner May 13, 2011
There are other ways to handle such things.
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner May 13, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Yes, and they DON'T work.
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Kalinka-Shadows Featured By Owner May 13, 2011
Sure they do. Anyway, my interest is in eliminating spanking as a form of punishment. Sexual fetish its fine.
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namipeach15 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2011
Ritual? There is no such thing as a christian spanking ritual...lol..
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Kalinka-Shadows Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2011
Yes there is, Spanking is a Christian culture phonomena
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner May 13, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Suddenly, everything is explained.
Look, I'm sorry, but when I was young grounding and reasoning did nothing. You know why? Because I was an unreasonable little brat.
I've seen parents nowadays with kids who don't get spanked or told "no" and those kids are little spoiled rotten brats that need a good whack in the butt. Spanking is called discipline. There is no better form. It is not abusive and it certainly doesn't cause psychological harm to the kid.
Like I said, I got spanked when I was younger and I turned out just fine. I've had friends who were spanked when they were younger and those were the section of my friend line that didn't end up in jail, or drunken idiots, or doing drugs (which is illegal where I come from), or acting like they are the superior being and that everyone else must bow to their will. I see that kind of thing and attitude from people whose parents didn't spank them as a child.
There's a fine line between a whack on the butt and a punch in the face. Punch in the face is where it gets out of line and goes over to abuse.
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Blood-B0xer Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Punch in the face is where it gets out of line and goes over to abuse."

That's how my dad was disciplined when he was a kid, from what he told me.
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That's horrible! :(
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Krypto451 Featured By Owner May 12, 2011
I think anti--spanking people intensionally only bring up the cases where it goes to far and becomes abuse.
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Vaotic-Pediophobic Featured By Owner May 12, 2011
And yet not alot of people do it. Sad sad sad....
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SionnaDehr Featured By Owner May 12, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I know right?
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